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About money, and HIV in Estonia

Posted by Henry Bauer on 2016/02/12

A correspondent from Estonia shared this recent news:

Unique HIV is spreading in Estonia
Research has shown that recombined (?) [recombinant = hybrids of the known “strains”] form of HIV spreads in Estonia. People get infected locally and it is not brought in from abroad.
‘We have done more than 10 years of research and we do not have exporters [?importers?] of HIV, we do not get it from Russia or Western Europe’, says Irja Lutsar, professor of medical microbiology and virology. She added that people get infected with HIV locally and a recombined [recombinant] form of HIV is spreading here.
‘Our virus is unique but if you ask where it came from then I do not know answer to that.’”

Professor Lutsar might find some clues in de Harven’s article in Journal of the American Physicians and Surgeons  as well as in The Case against HIV.

“Also, US, British and Finnish embassies here recently wrote a public letter to Estonian parliament about HIV”.

Part of that letter reads;
“The U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) is the largest commitment by any nation to combat a single disease. Through PEPFAR, the U.S. government works with vulnerable, developing nations on a framework to combat HIV/AIDS. Since 2009, the U.S. government has committed nearly $65 billion to support PEPFAR and its global HIV/AIDS response. While gains have been real, progress against this disease, even in the United States, has been uneven.”

That inevitably brought to mind the quote attributed to the late Republican fiscal conservative, Senator Everett Dirksen:

“A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon, you’re talking real money”.

(As commonly with the most delightful quotes, this may be a mis-attribution)

At any rate, the United States has apparently disbursed $65 billion without anyone getting any benefit and some undoubtedly being harmed as a result of being fed toxic drugs while not only healthy but even HIV-negative.
I shouldn’t have said, of course, that no one benefited. The drug companies and their shareholders and executives have certainly benefited.


7 Responses to “About money, and HIV in Estonia”

  1. I wrote this to the correspondent in Estonia;

    I guess to us this wouldn’t be so surprising. If the specific HIV ‘genome’ is a combination of genetic and environmental factors, it wouldn’t be surprising to see pockets of unique RNA/DNA strands.

    But it would be surprising to see a virus spread by sexual contact limited to a small geographical area which, like just about small country, has good transportation to several neighbouring countries, no laws against sex between locals and outsiders, and both immigration and emigration (short and long term).

    Really this is not possible within the HIV=AIDS=Death dogma.

    It would also be interesting to know whether the new cases, within families, are isolated, or whether there are entire families affected.

    – David

    • Guy said

      Also, do they have any live virus or only biological debris?

    • Guy said


      You have accepted that a virus is involved. A positive “HIV” test proves an immune reaction to the proteins on the test strip. There might be a virus involved and there might be some sort of stress within the organism that produces cell debris that heightens the immune response to those proteins. There might also be some genetic sensitivity to the “HIV” test genes that exists in Estonia. Do they have a live virus? Do they have RNA strands that they are assuming to be HIV?

  2. Ban Trees Now! said

    Something funny happenned to your title:
    53c5db81627a583e1bbf Pointing to evidence that HIV is not the necessary and sufficient cause of AIDS

    Hacked? Or a virus?

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