HIV/AIDS Skepticism

Pointing to evidence that HIV is not the necessary and sufficient cause of AIDS

“HIV”, organ transplants, surgery

Posted by Henry Bauer on 2009/07/09

Infected transplant patient a ‘mess’ — Woman was not told her kidney was high risk, attorney says” (AP, Chicago, 16 November)

“A woman in her 30s who is one of the four organ transplant patients infected with HIV and hepatitis was not told that the infected donor was high risk, and had previously rejected another donor ‘because of his lifestyle,’ her attorney [Thomas Demetrio] said. ‘She’s really a mess right now,’ Demetrio said of the Chicago-area woman. ‘She’s still in shock.’ The patient, identified in court documents as Jane Doe, received a kidney transplant at the University of Chicago Medical Center on Jan. 9, Demetrio said. . . . The woman had been told the donor was a healthy young man, her attorney said. But on Tuesday, hospital officials disclosed to the woman that he was actually high-risk, a 38-year-old gay man, Demetrio said. CDC guidelines say that gay men who are sexually active should not be used as organ donors unless the patient is in imminent danger of death. . . .
The woman had been ‘doing great’ on dialysis and had been on the donor waiting list for over six years . . . . The woman developed renal failure seven years ago but he did not know what caused it. ‘The fact is the transplant took very well. She’d been bumping along’ doing fine, ‘then she gets this phone call on Nov. 1.’ She’s been started on an HIV drug regimen ‘and unfortunately one of the side effects is it’s not good for the kidneys,’ Demetrio said. . . .
Four patients got organs in January at three Chicago hospitals from a donor who died after a traumatic injury. The donor had engaged in high-risk behaviors, according to a screening questionnaire, but standard testing showed the donor did not have AIDS or hepatitis C. . . .
Gift of Hope tested the organs and approved them for donation, telling the three hospitals that they came from a high-risk donor. Several months later, when one of the patients was being evaluated, blood tests showed the patient had HIV and hepatitis C. The other three patients were notified and tested, showing they had both viruses. The CDC says it’s the first time ever that both viruses were transmitted simultaneously through an organ transplant. It’s also the first known time since 1986 that HIV was transmitted through organ donation.”

This sad story illustrates the sorts of tragedies that follow from regarding a positive HIV-test as proof of infection by a pathogenic virus. What those tests (ELISA, Western Blot) actually detect is a variety of antibodies to a whole range of proteins, or (PCR test) bits of RNA and DNA, none of which have ever been shown to constitute part of an authentic virion of HIV. On the other hand, there is copious evidence that a great range of conditions can deliver a “positive” on an HIV test. In the present context, most pertinent are the reports that TRAUMA is associated with positive tests — see for example reports from emergency rooms and autopsies, p. 85 in The Origin, Persistence and Failings of HIV/AIDS Theory. When a person who has had surgery subsequently tests HIV-positive, it’s immediately assumed that infection resulted from blood transfusion or infected instruments; but perhaps the positive test merely reflects the trauma of the surgery or whatever manifest illness later ensues, as with a 65-year-old Indian patient .

“E”, a young lady of my acquaintance, tested HIV-positive following an operation for uterine cancer. Who knows how many more such cases there are? Like the Jane Doe in the transplant story, “E” was immediately put on antiretroviral drugs. The side effects kept her in hospital for months, before she decided to take charge and stop the medication — and she’s felt fine since then, just as Jane Doe did before starting on those kidney-destroying drugs, and Karri Stokely after stopping AIDS medication.

Only the truth can free us from this toll of iatrogenic human tragedies.

8 Responses to ““HIV”, organ transplants, surgery”

  1. Martin said

    Hi Dr. Bauer,
    Monday, the Boston Globe printed an editorial advocating routine HIV testing. This is not surprising, it being a property of the New York Times. It wouldn’t surprise me either if that “editorial” at the top of the page was bought and paid for by Big Pharma. Obviously routine testing, assuming that there is no resistance and that it’s mandatory (which I don’t think would actually happen — I hope), the numbers of people who wind up with a “positive” result will be significant — like you have said before, the epidemic is a testing phenomenon not an infectious phenomenon. I wrote an email to the Globe criticizing the “HIV” testing recommendation, but I don’t expect it to be printed or any other letters like mine to be printed. The sad thing is that if the major print media decided all of a sudden to start printing articles contrary to the AIDS party line, with advertising revenues dwindling, and Big Pharma one of the current sources of ad revenue, they (Big Pharma) would very quickly stop spending those advertising dollars. Unfortunately with very few exceptions (I don’t know of any except Harper’s currently and that was only 1 article) virtually every major daily would not say anything different from that Boston Globe editorial. Sad isn’t it?

    • Henry Bauer said

      Martin: Yes, sad. And I can’t stop being amazed at how emphatically so many people, journalists as well as others, feel free to carry on about things that they’ve taken purely on faith from sources they feel are to be believed.

  2. Philip said

    Greetings Dr. Bauer,

    I am a longtime lurker, but a first time commenter (I must sound like a talk-show caller). I also consider myself an HIV skeptic but I am inclined to ask — is it too much of a coincidence that all the transplant recipients fell ill?

    • Henry Bauer said

      Philip:
      Yes, it seems too much of a coincidence — or would, if all of them had actually been described as ill. The item I cited only mentioned that they were all “evaluated”, presumably because they were recipients, and found to “have the viruses”. Here as so often, one wants much more complete information.

      I think it’s beyond doubt that “HIV” tests are hugely non-specific, but we lack information about such pertinent matters as what sort of trauma is likely to stimulate a positive “HIV” result? When it does, is that then a permanent condition? Would perhaps all transplant patients test positive for varying periods of time after the procedure? Overall, “HIV+” results are more likely, the lower is the fitness or health of the tested group, so that is not out of the question.

  3. Philip said

    While I would not go far as to say that I totally agree with Stefan Lanka in saying all antibody based test are of little value, I would agree with you in that many antibody based tests – not just HIV – have many chances for false positives. In my practice alone I’ve seen people previously testing hepatitis B “negative” (which we both know to be a misnomer) suddenly turning “poz” with no history of risky behavior or possible mode of transmission.

    You have correctly pointed out that they were found to be reactive to HIV Elisa, not that they were actually “ill”. I think it is also worth mentioning that this is supposedly the only such case since the mid-eighties. That alone is worth looking into.

  4. Michael said

    Another factor to consider is that transplant patients are always given immunosuppressant drugs so their body does not reject the transplant, and it seems they must take some immunosuppressants usually for the remainder of their lives. As such, infections are a normal and continuous concern for those who have had transplants.

    http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/living-with-an-organ-transplant/immunosuppression

    Therefore, no need to blame HIV, as I don’t think it would be unusual to have infections after being given immunosuppressant drugs that are given at particularly high dosage for the first 6 months to a year following the transplant.

    Also, and not surprisingly, organ transplants can easily induce many and varied antibodies that can throw the HIV antibody tests.

    See: Agbalika F, Ferchal F, Garnier J-P, et al. 1992. False-positive antigens related to emergence of a 25-30 kD protein detected in organ recipients. AIDS. 6:959-962

    • Henry Bauer said

      Michael: Excellent points

    • Philip said

      There is a saying in China, which I will paraphrase into “three idiots are better than one genius” – a variation of two heads are better than one.

      I say this because I have to congratulate Michael for his insight – I had not thought of his points – and I am a physician!

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