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henk-jan ebbers said
Mr. Bauer,
Very good work, my compliments.
I like your approach, the pointing out of statistical improbabilities and errors.
This is what made me take a sceptical attitude toward HIV/AIDS some years ago.
In my opinion this is better than the medical discussions.
I could send you a link to a Dutch institute that examines AIDS.
Their offical news is like (this year): ‘AIDS/HIV epidemic not under control’, etc.
Their publications with the data they find, are quite interesting and tell me a different story (data of 2005):
- HIV numbers are (slowly) going down. I couldn’t find data about total numbers of tests/percentage of population tested.
I got the impression that the number of tests are going up because of standard testing of pregnant women (I’m not sure about this).
- 60% of new infections are among immigrants (many immigrants from Africa below the Sahara)
- they claim HIV is going up in women, but it looks like this is coming from the immigrants
- within the Dutch population, mainly homosexual victims
- HAART has amazing effects: number of AIDS-related dead are much lower than in not-treated patients. But the number
of total deaths is about equal in both groups.
- etc.
Kind regards,
Henk-Jan
(as I’m not a native speaker of English I hope I did not make too many errors).
hhbauer said
Henk-Jan:
Many thanks for your comments. Please do send the link to the Dutch site–but my Dutch is much worse than your English! I understand only those parts that are clearly like German, which I do read.
G. said
http://news.aol.com/health/story/_a/pre-chewed-food-gave-hiv-to-kids/20080207063809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
Check out this link. Thought you might find it very interesting. Your blog is well detailed. It gave me a lot of upto date research information. It’s something that I have been researching for the last couple of decades, it’s very fascinating stuff, especially the dissident views.
Jan said
Mr. Bauer,
First of all I want to congratulate you for this blog. It is a really good approach in revealing the flaws of HIV/AIDS.
I send you three links from German news stations.
The first link shows an AIDS advocate who claims that there will be a cure for AIDS in at least 10 years from now.
I wish you all the best, Jan
http://www.rtl.de/rtlaktuell/rtl_aktuell_videoplayer.php?article=18338&pos=7
http://www.focus.de/gesundheit/ratgeber/sexualitaet/risiko/hiv-experte_aid_265161.html
http://www.welt.de/welt_print/article1793990/Therapie_von_Aids_wird_fr_die_Patienten_einfacher.html
Jeet said
i really want to ask you .. if you can state in points like 1, 2, 3 why you believe that HIV is not the cause of AIDS. i guess then it would make our job of reading your site easier. Coz at this point of time .. it has very poor presentation. And pl give the links to each of the points. Thank you.
Henry Bauer said
Jeet:
I can’t put in a nutshell what I wrote a whole book to explain. Ask your local library to get you a copy.
Paul Lineback said
Prof Bauer:
This is not a comment about your fine blog, but urgent and sad news. I just saw the following on the LA Times website, which announced that Christine Maggiore died today. It does not describe any circumstances relating to her death yet kind of implies that it was AIDS. Do you know anything?
LA Times
Christine Maggiore, prominent HIV skeptic, dead at 52
12:35 PM, December 29, 2008
Christine Maggiore, a Van Nuys woman who garnered national attention as an outspoken skeptic of the human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, has died, according to the L.A. County coroner’s office.
Maggiore, 52, was founder of Alive & Well AIDS Alternatives, a nonprofit that challenges “common assumptions” about AIDS. Her group’s website and toll-free hotline cater to expectant HIV-positive mothers who shun AIDS medications, want to breast-feed their babies and seek to meet others of like mind. She also had written a book on the subject, titled “What if Everything You Thought You Knew About AIDS Was Wrong?”
In 2006, the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office decided not to file criminal charges against Maggiore, whose daughter died the year before in what the county coroner ruled was AIDS-related pneumonia.
Los Angeles police had been investigating whether Maggiore and her husband, Robin Scovill, were negligent in not testing or treating Eliza Jane Scovill for the human immunodeficiency virus before her May 2005 death.
Maggiore had said that she did not take antiviral medications during her pregnancy and that she did not have her daughter tested for the virus after birth.
In a message on the Alive & Well website, Maggiore explained her own story and how she became an activist. “Through Alive & Well and my book, I hope to share vital facts, inspire essential dialogue and give other people who test HIV -positive the chance to consider a destiny that differs from the one we are taught to expect,” she wrote.
– Anna Gorman
Henry Bauer said
Paul:
I don’t know any more than the LATimes story that you cited. I News Googled just now and got only that
Photonaut said
I’m reeling… Dr Bauer, it’s at a time like this that we realize that beyond all the intellectual jousting, it’s an emotional issue; it’s about belief, no less that one person’s belief in the power of God (or the devil, for that matter) & another’s disbelief in the same. But this shakes my faith, as it is, however irrational that shaking is.
What is your response? Are you firm in the face of this?
Jason
Henry Bauer said
Facts are stubborn things, as they say.”HIV” doesn’t cause “AIDS”, and that’s all there is to it. All we’ve heard about Christine’s death so far is that she died suddenly. We do know also that she’s been under incredible stress for years.
“In the midst of life we are in death”, as they say. People get taken far too early at times, by all sorts of events. Christine wasn’t shaken even by her daughter’s death. One appropriate way to honor her memory would be to try to be as courageous and honest as she was.
Carol said
Here’s the best info about Christine’s death that I’ve found.
http://www.deanesmay.com/2008/12/30/what-killed-christine-maggiore/
Stefan R. said
Today I saw, that there was a final 10 vote cut on the issue at change.org. I tried to save the whole page, which stated at this point, “This idea finished 3rd Place…”. In the saved data I found the following disclaimer which was not visible in the browser-view of the page:
“Delete Idea
We wanted to send you a note about an idea you recently submitted on in the Ideas for Change in America competition titled “Take a new look at the cause of AIDS.” We support calls for truth and transparency in our government on every subject and welcome you to directly petition the new administration about this matter, which you can do at http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople. However, this is unfortunately outside the scope of the Ideas for Change in America project, which aims to offer specific policy solutions rather than investigations into past government action. As such, it is not eligible to enter the second round of the competition. We understand that good people may disagree with our vision. But this is a private effort not connected to the Obama campaign or transition team, and we reserve the right to keep the competition and its content aligned with the stated mission and overall spirit of the project. Thank you for your understanding. As mentioned above, we welcome you to directly petition the Obama administration about your proposal at http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople. And we hope you continue your work to advance change. Best, – The Ideas for Change in America Team
Change.org”
On my opinion that’s censorship at it’s best and I wonder who has paid for it and what’s going on there behind the curtains…
Stefan R. said
@change.org
The idea “Repeal the Patriot Act” in the category “Others” meets the same excluding conditions mentioned by the change.org team and stays on top.
For me it’s an act of censorship…
david said
This is censorship. But I also found the wording of the dissident inspired and proposed change to be problematic. Not every dissident agrees with Duesberg’s theory about the causation of AIDS. I have known people who fell ill with an AIDS OI or, without having ever taken recreational drugs and without having gone on the meds. Would it not have been better to propose a multifactorial model of AIDS causation which takes into acount drug abuse, but other factors as well, much as the Perth Group so wisely does? This “drugs are the sole cause of AIDS in gay men” meme has cost the dissident movement greatly, and it is simply not true!
Henry Bauer said
David: I agree that a less specific wording would be better, but it did also mention malnutrition. And it’s important to remember that “drugs” includes antibiotics, steroids, and other Rx medications, not only recreational and antiretroviral ones. Antibiotics were widely over-used among fast-lane gay men in the 1970s and early 1980s.
Michael said
You will find at the following link, a letter to the founder and CEO of change.org, verifying that change.org does indeed censor issues, and not just our own, but fully has their own agenda to promote issues of their own preference, and is not in fact promoting any such thing as the “will of the people”.
http://www.americanbuddhist.net/letter-ben-rattray-change-org
Henry Bauer said
Michael:
Here’s what I think is the most general point, which I had also sent to change.org before we were censored:
“President-Elect Obama is commendably aware of the need to be exposed to a range of competent views. However, that need applies in science and medicine as much — maybe even more — as in economics or politics or educational policy. It’s not widely enough appreciated that the major advances in science and in medicine have almost always come DESPITE the mainstream consensus, which always defends vigorously whatever it happens to believe at a given moment.”
resistanceisfruitful said
I see that there is some discussion about the change.org fiasco here. I’ve written a critique entitled I committed vote fraud @ change.org. on my new blog.
As a survivor of the “HIV/AIDS” myth, I hope to share my personal experience in more detail in the future. The debate over the Idea Take a new look at the cause of AIDS, followed by Christine’s recent death are the final impetuses to convince me to tell my story more publicly now.
Photonaut said
Hi Dr Bauer
I thought this would be of interest to you if you haven’t already seen it: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090112110050.htm
This seems to correlate with your research showing that being “HIV positive” corresponds to other factors that the presence of a retrovirus.
Jason
Henry Bauer said
Thanks, Jason, I hadn’t seen it.
This is like the old flap about CCR5 and other genetic things that CORRELATE TO A SMALL EXTENT with a tendency to test “HIV”-positive. I suspect that one could find correlations between testing “HIV” positive and a very large variety of other physiological and genetic characteristics, since the tests respond to a wide range of antibodies, other proteins, and bits of nucleic acids.
Allen said
Dr. Bauer,
Hi, I read an article on Reuters that has a bunch of stats you might like…or rather dislike. In light of some of your recent posts, I noticed this particular quote:
“[Those 50 and over] have a shorter time from diagnosis to the onset of AIDS, reflecting both age-related faster progression to AIDS and doctors’ failure to consider HIV as a diagnosis,”
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE5224DN20090303
Henry Bauer said
Allen:
Thanks for the link. I went to the original WHO Bulletin. Everything seems to fit with what I’ve been blogging. I’ve discussed the fact that median ages of everything to do with “HIV/AIDS” have been drifting upwards over the years, beginning with tests, then new AIDS diagnoses, then People living With Aids, then deaths from “HIV disease”. Since median ages drifted upwards, naturally the proportions of older people increased.
That the authors of the WHO Bulletin piece express surprise at the proportion of older people among those with HIV can only mean that they were unfamiliar with HIV prevalence data over the years. The data for PWA given on my blog show the proportion of >50 among them going from 7.0% in 1982 to 9–9.5% from 1984 to 1990, then 10–10.3% to 1993, then increasing to 15.8% by 1998. After that year data were reported (by the CDC) for intervals 45-54 and 55-up, but both >45 and >55 show quite a steady increase over the years. As I said, perfectly in line with my discussion of upward drift in all median ages, reasons for which I also gave; notably, the inclusion in the statistics of healthy people with low CD4 counts from 1993 on.
As to faster progression to AIDS at older ages, they cite a LINEAR increase, whereas — as I pointed out — all-cause mortality and individual illnesses and diseases show an EXPONENTIAL increase in mortality with age.
I’m afraid that this WHO BUlletin, and the uncritical summary of it by Reuters, are both fully in the tradition of misleading releases from official sources passed on indiscriminately by the media
Allen said
Thanks for the quick run-down on the article. It helps me understand what you are saying. The interesting thing is that you agree with the data, as it is, but that your explicit analysis of the data shows that the claims around the mainstream data, as demonstrated in this Reuters article, are flawed. A good showing of the complexity of modern spin and complacence.
Henry Bauer said
Allen:
Complexity indeed. I have to keep reminding myself that “HIV+” is a marker, not a cause. And that umpteen different things can lead to “HIV+” — some of them health-threatening, others not. Often, reports don’t have enough information to venture a reasonable alternative explanation to the mainstream one.
I appreciate your interest.
Kenny said
To Dr. Bauer,
Hello, I recently stumbled upon this site after seeing the House of Numbers documentary at my school and I must say I was very surprised at the things I didn’t know about HIV/AIDS. I’m just wondering if perhaps you could possibly answer these questions for me or provide links/articles.
1) If people have been diagnosed multiple times with being HIV positive and DO NOT take whatever medication/prescription drug they’re suppose to take what happens to those individuals?
2) For the people who have been confirmed positive for HIV and DO take the drugs for HIV/AIDS, what happens to them? do they sick? how long does it take for them to die?
3)Have there been studies where people diagnosed with HIV/AIDS get off the prescribed drugs and turn out to be completely fine for many many years?
Kenny
Henry Bauer said
Kenny: There’s a lot on my blog to answer all those questions.
For (1), search with the terms “long-term non-progressors” and “elite controllers”. We don’t know how many there are because there’s no way to find out without testing the whole population, but various inferences suggest that a great proportion, maybe even the majority of “HIV+” people who are not ill with anything when they test positive, are at little or no risk just because they test positive. The major reason for this is that the tests repsond “positive” to all sorts of conditions, for example pregnancy or tetanus shot or flu vaccination, which are hardly health-threatening.
For (2), search with “mortality”; and look defintiely at “AIDS” deaths: owing to antiretroviral drugs or to lack of antiretroviral treatment?, 2 October 2008, and Living with HIV; Dying from What?, 10 December 2008.
For (3), I know only of personal accounts. As with elite controllers, there’s no obvious way to gather such data because people in that situation often have good reason not to make it public because doctors are trained to insist that people should not stop antiretroviral treatment. Google “Karri Stokely”, “Audrey Serrano”, “Lindsey Nagel—living proof” for a few examples.