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	<title>Comments on: HAART saves lives &#8212; but doesn’t prolong them!?</title>
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	<description>Pointing to evidence that HIV is not the necessary and sufficient cause of AIDS</description>
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		<title>By: Mykoolaidtastesfunny</title>
		<link>http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/haart-saves-lives-but-doesn%e2%80%99t-prolong-them/#comment-9367</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. I know you&#039;re not dishonest I just have no head for numbers to refute the idiot who said you were.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I know you&#8217;re not dishonest I just have no head for numbers to refute the idiot who said you were.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Bauer</title>
		<link>http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/haart-saves-lives-but-doesn%e2%80%99t-prolong-them/#comment-9366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mykoolaidtastesfunny:
I don&#039;t understand the force of that comment. In any case, Table 2 gives actual numbers for AIDS  and for deaths in the several reported age ranges, and your critic can easily calculate the respective distributions for both, and also the means, and could then be specific rather than making that abstract, doubtfully pertinent, and rather &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; comment re &quot;high school understanding&quot;.
If he or she doesn&#039;t find those data convincing, perhaps they should look at “‘HIV disease’ is not an illness”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-20&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-20&lt;/a&gt;; “How ‘AIDS Deaths’ and ‘HIV Infections’ vary with age — and WHY”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-5e&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-5e&lt;/a&gt;; “Living with HIV; Dying from what?”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-7i&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-7i&lt;/a&gt;; “HIV, AIDS, and age: HIV/AIDS theory is wrong”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-82&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-82&lt;/a&gt;; “Age shall not wither them — because HIV really doesn’t kill”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-8i&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wp.me/p8Qhq-8i&lt;/a&gt;.
The strongest result, to my mind, is that the mortality from AIDS or HIV disease does not increase with age, which means that those categories are not illnesses, because ALL illnesses bring sharply increasing mortality rates with age.
And since those categories are not illnesses, &quot;treating&quot; them with toxic substances can only shorten, not prolong life. As my calculations in the criticized piece show.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mykoolaidtastesfunny:<br />
I don&#8217;t understand the force of that comment. In any case, Table 2 gives actual numbers for AIDS  and for deaths in the several reported age ranges, and your critic can easily calculate the respective distributions for both, and also the means, and could then be specific rather than making that abstract, doubtfully pertinent, and rather <em>ad hominem</em> comment re &#8220;high school understanding&#8221;.<br />
If he or she doesn&#8217;t find those data convincing, perhaps they should look at “‘HIV disease’ is not an illness”, <a href="http://wp.me/p8Qhq-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p8Qhq-20</a>; “How ‘AIDS Deaths’ and ‘HIV Infections’ vary with age — and WHY”, <a href="http://wp.me/p8Qhq-5e" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p8Qhq-5e</a>; “Living with HIV; Dying from what?”, <a href="http://wp.me/p8Qhq-7i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p8Qhq-7i</a>; “HIV, AIDS, and age: HIV/AIDS theory is wrong”, <a href="http://wp.me/p8Qhq-82" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p8Qhq-82</a>; “Age shall not wither them — because HIV really doesn’t kill”, <a href="http://wp.me/p8Qhq-8i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p8Qhq-8i</a>.<br />
The strongest result, to my mind, is that the mortality from AIDS or HIV disease does not increase with age, which means that those categories are not illnesses, because ALL illnesses bring sharply increasing mortality rates with age.<br />
And since those categories are not illnesses, &#8220;treating&#8221; them with toxic substances can only shorten, not prolong life. As my calculations in the criticized piece show.</p>
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		<title>By: Mykoolaidtastesfunny</title>
		<link>http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/haart-saves-lives-but-doesn%e2%80%99t-prolong-them/#comment-9365</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dr Bauer I realize this is an older article but I suggested someone read it and got this in reply....&quot;You do realize they use MEDIAN age &amp; NOT mean age. While not having the mean age to work with so I can&#039;t comment on the actual effectiveness or lack thereof; I can say it takes a high school understanding of statistics to comprehend that the MEDIAN age of death will not see a dramatic shift unless the distribution of people WITH HIV is changed (eg-80% of group MOVES to certain age group)

I can only theorize dishonesty to use median here&quot;

I have no interest in math and the person who replied thus is apparently not willing to come over here and point out your &quot;error&quot;   so I decided to do it for him. Of course...he based that reply on what I could squeeze into the youtube comments boxes and never read the article for himself. Do you have a comment about it? I really really have no interest in math beyond reading or watching histories of math or bios of mathematicians so I have no reply.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr Bauer I realize this is an older article but I suggested someone read it and got this in reply&#8230;.&#8221;You do realize they use MEDIAN age &amp; NOT mean age. While not having the mean age to work with so I can&#8217;t comment on the actual effectiveness or lack thereof; I can say it takes a high school understanding of statistics to comprehend that the MEDIAN age of death will not see a dramatic shift unless the distribution of people WITH HIV is changed (eg-80% of group MOVES to certain age group)</p>
<p>I can only theorize dishonesty to use median here&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no interest in math and the person who replied thus is apparently not willing to come over here and point out your &#8220;error&#8221;   so I decided to do it for him. Of course&#8230;he based that reply on what I could squeeze into the youtube comments boxes and never read the article for himself. Do you have a comment about it? I really really have no interest in math beyond reading or watching histories of math or bios of mathematicians so I have no reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Bauer</title>
		<link>http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/haart-saves-lives-but-doesn%e2%80%99t-prolong-them/#comment-2433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Darren:

Indeed. A few brave voices in the media have been pointing out that there&#039;s a new &quot;bubble&quot; in the drug business: defining new &quot;illnesses&quot; or &quot;diseases&quot; in order to market &quot;medications&quot; for them. Every new definition brings with it --- &lt;strong&gt;SURPRISE &lt;/strong&gt;--- a rapidly increasing incidence. For example, &quot;Is a new disorder being identified to meet unmet needs or to build markets for new medications?&quot; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/326/7379/45?ijkey=detpYa.V5DKsM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BMJ 2003;326:45-47&lt;/a&gt; ( 4 January ) --- Education and debate --- The making of a disease: female sexual dysfunction, by Ray Moynihan]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren:</p>
<p>Indeed. A few brave voices in the media have been pointing out that there&#8217;s a new &#8220;bubble&#8221; in the drug business: defining new &#8220;illnesses&#8221; or &#8220;diseases&#8221; in order to market &#8220;medications&#8221; for them. Every new definition brings with it &#8212; <strong>SURPRISE </strong>&#8212; a rapidly increasing incidence. For example, &#8220;Is a new disorder being identified to meet unmet needs or to build markets for new medications?&#8221; [<a href="http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/326/7379/45?ijkey=detpYa.V5DKsM" rel="nofollow">BMJ 2003;326:45-47</a> ( 4 January ) --- Education and debate --- The making of a disease: female sexual dysfunction, by Ray Moynihan]</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Means</title>
		<link>http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/haart-saves-lives-but-doesn%e2%80%99t-prolong-them/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darren Means]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When reading this I am reminded of the massive increases reported in the main stream media of obesity and diabetes &quot;in the last 20 years&quot;. Forgetting of course, the changes in the BMI [body mass index] and BSL [blood-sugar level] in order to be considered one or the other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When reading this I am reminded of the massive increases reported in the main stream media of obesity and diabetes &#8220;in the last 20 years&#8221;. Forgetting of course, the changes in the BMI [body mass index] and BSL [blood-sugar level] in order to be considered one or the other.</p>
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